I have been working on my macrame necklace using one of the metal "cabochon" pairs that I cut. The double layer cabochon of copper and a flattened silver spoon required 80 cords to get around it. I am using regular c-lon cord. I still have a ways to go, but I think it is looking nice. I plan on it being more of a short collar type necklace. Will post on it again when it is finished. I have made a metal button for the closure. I plan on doing a button and loop closure.